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How deep can a mortar bed be on top of a concrete hot tub base when laying porcelain?

Anonymous user 09/03/2024 - 3.35 PM

I have had someone start to lay a porcelain patio for me and has now left site. They have already laid 20 slabs/5 rows, that patio already seems to have multiple falls as the bubble on the spirit is on the the second line for the first 3 slabs, 1st line on the 4th slab and just under the first line for the 5th slab. There’s 4 more rows to go in behind these and my hottub is to be sat on this. They have laid from front to back and already there is at least 80mm mortar bed between the hot tub base and the slab, this is only going to get deeper as the slabs are laid. Is this ok? If not why not? Obviously I understand it costs more in materials. Is there a maximum allowance for a mortar bed? Is this going to be a problem considering the thickest mortar bed is over the concrete base for the hot tub? Is it ok to change the fall on the slabs like this? Is this laid too steep for my hot tub? Please could you also give an explanation to your answers so I have a better understanding. Thanks My slabs are 1200 x 600 Update- already one of the central slabs has lifted

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5 Answers

Anonymous user

80mm is too much. A typical mortar bed should be around 25mm. The fall away from the property should ideally be at 1:80 ratio
Answered4 July 2023
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Anonymous user

20 to 30mm and slope probably 1.5 - 2cm every metre fall is what we do 80mm is ridiculous
Answered5 July 2023
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Anonymous user

I would use a 35mm to 45mm bed
Answered8 July 2023
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When it comes to laying porcelain slabs on top of a concrete base, there are certain guidelines to follow to ensure a proper installation. Here are some considerations regarding your specific situation: Mortar Bed Thickness: While it's important to have a sufficient mortar bed to support the slabs and provide a level surface, having excessive mortar thickness can lead to issues. The typical recommended mortar bed thickness for porcelain slabs is around 10-15 mm. However, going beyond that thickness can increase the risk of unevenness, cracking, and instability. Falls and Levelness: The falls you mentioned indicate the slope or incline of the slabs. It's common to create a slight slope to ensure water drains properly and doesn't accumulate on the surface. However, if the falls are excessive or inconsistent, it can lead to water pooling or uneven weight distribution, which may cause problems over time. Hot Tub Base: Placing a hot tub on top of the patio introduces additional considerations. The hot tub requires a solid and level foundation to ensure stability and avoid structural issues. Excessive mortar thickness between the hot tub base and the slabs can create an uneven load distribution and potentially cause problems. Potential Problems: With the current situation you described, there are a few potential concerns: a. Unevenness: The inconsistent falls you mentioned could result in a patio surface that is not level. This can lead to water pooling, instability, and potential trip hazards. b. Excessive Mortar Thickness: If the mortar bed continues to deepen as the remaining slabs are laid, it may result in an overly thick layer that can impact stability and load distribution, especially for the hot tub. c. Load Distribution: The combination of excessive mortar thickness and uneven falls may create an uneven load distribution on the hot tub base. This can potentially cause stress and damage to the hot tub structure. Recommendations: It would be best to address these concerns before proceeding further. It may be necessary to consult with a professional contractor or a specialist in patio installations to assess the current situation and provide appropriate guidance. They can determine if adjustments need to be made, such as correcting falls, leveling the surface, or potentially removing and relaying the slabs to ensure a stable and functional patio, especially for the hot tub placement. Remember that these recommendations are general guidelines, and it's crucial to consult with a professional who can assess your specific situation and provide the most accurate advice based on the site conditions and the intended use of the patio and hot tub.
Answered10 July 2023
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Anonymous user

I ADVISE TO GO 30/40mm. I USE 5 PARTS OF SHARP TO ONE PART CEMENT OR STRONGER. I ALSO USE SBR MIXED WITH CEMENT TO FORM A SLURRY MIX. A GOOD LUCK SLIGHT BRUSH ON THE BACK OF TILE HELPS TO CREATE A REALLY FIRM BOND. THE FALL WHEN LAYING PORCELAIN SHOULD BE AROUND 15mm FALL FOR EVERY 1000mm FALLING AWAY FROM PROPERTY.
Answered23 July 2023
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