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Best concealed cistern

Anonymous user 01/03/2024 - 3.01 PM

I have installed a rimless back to wall toilet with a concealed cistern, both from Easybathrooms. But the flush is very poor. Just not enough power in the flush to shift anything first time. Takes 3 or 4 flushes. I've changed the cistern for another one the same but still no difference. If I pour a litre jug of water down the loo at same time as flushing, it's fine. I've now swapped to a normal type toilet pan, which is better but the flush only just manages to shift paper etc. Can anyone recommend a concealed cistern with a good strong flush? To be honest the rimless toilet was far nicer and better quality than the one I've replaced it with. But I'm not sure if these 6 litre dual flush cisterns are compatible with rimless toilet pans. The water level in the cistern is higher than the line inside, I've got it right to top of overflow pipe. All water empties from cistern when flushed. I can't raise the cistern any higher as its in a unit. Maybe I can just replace the flush valve with a decent one, saving a few quid over a whole new cistern. I'd prefer a higher capacity than 6L but not sure if one would fit in the 500 unit. Easybathrooms are saying it's not a problem with there products, it's an installation issue! Craig: There is about 4 inches of pipe on the flush pipe before the bend. I've also got the pipe running downhill slightly into the pan to aid the flush. It's an Apache dual flush concealed cistern on the Easybathrooms website. It's 320 H x 335 W x 140 D. I've installed it as high as possible in the 500mm unit. I will double check the pipe going into pan itself.

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DH Plumbing and Heating

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Dawlish
Sounds like the water level within the cistern has not been set correctly when installed not allowing a full flush due to lack of water held within the cistern
Answered3 July 2023
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Craigs plumbing services

Rating: 5 out of 5
Brigg
Change your cistern. I've had it a few times where the customer supplies their own suite from these type of retailers and the cisterns provided are genuinely garbage. Change it for decent branded one like the Dudley vantage or roper rhodes torrent. You can't get any larger than a 6litre flush. The problem isn't the quantity of water, it's how quickly that volume of water enters the toilet pan. Which cistern have they provided? Is your toilet pan Comfort or standard height? With the flush pipe coming from the cistern, how much pipe is there before the bend? Also worth checking that the flush cone isn't restricting the outlet of the flush pipe where it enters the toilet pan, had a couple cones in the past that restrict the outlet by around 50%, the cistern still flushes with 6 litres of water but takes twice as long as it should to empty resulting in a rather poor flush.
Answered8 July 2023
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pjb plumbing & heating

Rating: 5 out of 5
Walton On The Naze
Toilets used to have a pipe that went through the toilet to the exit. Now toilets (cheap build) go from the entrance to a chamber at the rear and are then there is the pipe outlet. We never used to get rubbish design like this. This makes the paper and stuff churn in the chamber and never clear. Your issue may well be that you bought from a superstore, who sources the cheapest source. Had you bought Ideal Standard, you may not be in this mess. The only other thing could be the plumbing soil pipe being too restricted. Some plumbers put pan connectors into pan connectors instead of using what they need to do the job properly.
Answered28 June 2023
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Anonymous user

Install a larger capacity cistern
Answered8 July 2023
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