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9 Gas meters inside a 2 bedroom flat.

Anonymous user 28/02/2024 - 4.06 PM

Dear gas engineers, Many thanks for taking the time to read and answer my question. I live in a building that has all the gas meters in the basement of a commercial unit. Back in 2015 the owner applied for planning permission to convert the commercial basement into a 2 bedroom flat. The council granted permission. 9 gas meters of all the residents in the building ended up inside this 2 bedroom flat. Our problem is that whenever we need gas meters readings, boiler installation or just normal gas engineer annual gas inspection. We can’t access the gas meters unless the tenants are inside the flat and in the mood to open the door to grant permission to access the gas meters. In the event of a gas leak we are unable to close the gas valves unless the tenants are inside the flat. Council said that it is not their responsibility to assess the risk of these 9 gas meters inside the flat or the potential risk of no being able to close the emergency gas valves. In the event of a gas leak or an explosion who will be responsible for this? I fear that our building insurance in the event of an explosion, the insurance will say, that we are liable for no rectifying the access to the gas meters. Who is responsible for reinforcing access to gas meters? Many thanks in advance for your comments and advice.

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3 Answers

Heron Gas Services

Rating: 5 out of 5
Solihull
Hello, if a gas meter's Emergency Control Valve is not easily accessible then that is classed as an unsafe situation. If you phone Cadent's number 0800111999, tell them it's not an emergency but you need to report an issue - nine gas meters' ECV's are not accessible to the occupants. Explain the situation and that there is no guarantee that anyone will be able to turn their gas off in an emergency. Cadent may need to send someone out for a look, there may need to be warning labels applied or things turned off until the situation changes and Cadent may even offer, or need to, move the meters or suggest access to Emergency Control Valves. Landlord gas safety check forms also have a specific line "Is the Emergency Control Valve access satisfactory? Pass/Fail". Could additional ECV's be put where the gas enters each flat? This would help with emergencies but engineers still need to access a gas meter when working on a condensing boiler (gas rate check) or carrying out tightness tests before and after gas work. I think it will end up being Cadent that will have to do something about access to be honest. I hope this was of some use. All the best.
Answered23 March 2023
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Andrew Mock ltd

Rating: 5 out of 5
Camborne
You should report it to gas safe as they can investigate it and have the power to do something about it if it does not conform with regulations
Answered23 March 2023
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YELLOWSTONE SERVICES LTD

Rating: 5 out of 5
Manchester
The quickest way to desl with the problem is to ask for a free safety check from Gss Ssfe Register. go to: WWW.GASSAFEREGISTER.CO.UK When you follow this advice, You will receive a report ftom them, and they should report this to the authorized bodies such as ,RIDDOR, HSE WWW.HSE.GOV.UK However if you try to do this yourself it will frustrate you, RIDDOR & HSE are very complicated websites full of laws snd regulations.
Answered23 March 2023
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