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Tiling

Ply overboard on top of UFH moving and tiles cracking

Anonymous user 16/03/2024 - 2.47 PM

I have a customer that has underfloor heating throughout their single storey dwelling. When then property was renovated a few years ago, the builder installed the UFH (wet system) then appears to have ply’d on top then tiled onto this. The tiles are moving and subsequently cracking/lifting. I’ve repaired a number of tiles (about 10m2) which to date are fine, but can’t understand why the floor wasn’t screeded over the UFH as there’s discernible movement in the ply which clearly any going to work with tile…I can’t see a long-term solution other than lifting all the tiles, screeding and laying new tiles but obviously a massive job (1000m2?) Any suggestions?

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Gin Building Contractors Ltd

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Harlow
Cowboy job , they don't want screwing plywood because easily can be damage ufh pipes. solutions lift up all tiles and whole areas layout with Liquid screed, also known as flow screed, is a self-levelling and ideal for use with underfloor heating as it completely envelops heating pipes, eliminating any voids or air pockets. This results in greater thermal conductivity.
Answered8 August 2022
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Elite Pro Tiling

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Margate
Hi You are correct, its an absolute no no to tile onto ply (as detailed within BS5385-1) let alone onto ply over UFH. Sadly, the only solution is remove the existing tiles and ply and then encapsulate the UFH pipework within a cement based screed or self-levelling compound. Keeping in mind that cement based screed will dry at a rate of 1mm per day for the first 40mm and then 0.5mm per day for the remaining depth. You will need to install a decoupling membrane onto the new screed to ensure the UFH can expand and contract without transferring stress into the tiles above. Schluter Ditra Mat can be installed onto the freshly laid cement based screed just as soon as you can walk on the screed without leaving footprints. Enabling a quicker tile installation without waiting for the cement based screed to fully cure. Schluter Ditra Mat is designed to permit moisture to escape form the screed and dissipate to the edges, ensuring the cement based screed dries at a normal rate. Should you encapsulate with an Anhydrite based product, you will need that to dry and ensure that the Anhydrite screed has a residual moisture content of 0.5% However, with the use of Ditra (ensuring it is installed correctly as full waterproof / decoupling system tiles can be installed with a moisture content of 2% (by volume). I hope this helps. Regards Shaun.
Answered8 August 2022
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