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Painting & Decorating

Painting All Dark Stained Wood in Home To White - Help!

Anonymous user 09/03/2024 - 3.28 PM

All the wood in our home - stairs, bannister, doors & frames, skirting, window frames, mantelpieces, handrails, architrave etc is stained dark cherry brown with a semi-shiny finish. We wish to change it all to Satinwood White using a Water Based paint as an oil paint would yellow quickly in our home. Much of it has been sanded down to bare - on these areas, I presume 2 coats of regular undercoat & then top coat is correct? Do modern water based undercoats have a primer built in? However, many areas & all hardwood doors still remain in the Dark Stained Colour which has been sanded with 80 Grit sandpaper. Told to use Zinsser Bin to cover the dark colour but with so much to cover, this would be extremely costly. I have seen YouTube Videos where Painters use the cheaper Zinsser 123 instead & some use Zinsser 123 Plus but this prices the same as the costly BIN. One paint brand (Isomat) said that with quality Water Based paints like their Isolac Aqua 2 coats of a quality undercoat plus a top coat will fully cover the dark colour without any bleeding through - is this correct? Their paint however, too is extremely costly! Please advise on the best/most cost effective way to paint the sanded dark stained areas as even with the cheapest Zinsser 123, we would need so much that it would be very costly for us & then more costs for the undercoats! If there is a way to simply twice undercoat these darker sanded areas & then top coat with regular good quality paints without using these costly sealers & still get good results, please kindly let me know! If not, should these remaining areas then also be sanded bare for best results then?

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4 Answers

Jsamuelsdecorating

Rating: 5 out of 5
Bristol
First stage .Two full coats of RED bin then fill out any holes or imperfections with light brown wood filler . Once dry sand down with a soft pad 150 grit. Next stage- a coat of satinwood then sand down again with a 240 grit pad. Last stage another coat of satinwood to finish. I would reccomend having this done with someone who has alot of knowledge and experience in spraying wood work with a fine finish spray using a decent setup either with a Qtec 5 or somthing similer. Trust me you if you want flawless finish and speed then dont go with a brush and roller.
Answered29 May 2022
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Anonymous user

Hello. If you do twice undercoat and then put 2 coats of paint it will get the job done. It doesn't need to be a expensive paint the satinwood paint is good
Answered9 June 2022
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Dekor Interiors

Rating: 5 out of 5
Bideford
The red BIN is a shellac as opposed to the 123 and 123+ Which are water based. If your wood is hard wood I would definitely use the shellac as it will stop colour bleed and any potential oily surface stopping adhesion of your water based top coats. Cost is always a consideration but again being blunt, 5 litres of bin shellac is around £80 and goes a very long way. It should easily undercoat all of the woodwork in an average size house. The 123 for 5 litres is £20 cheaper, not worth scrimping in my humble opinion unless the wood is softwood and fully sanded to key properly…. Do the doors with a very good quality foam roller (cheap ones disintegrate) don’t worry too much about the finish as the idea is to key the old finish to the water based too coats. Apply is as best as you can and then flat sand it to get rid of any runs. Then use a food quality eggshell or Satinwood. Again 5 litres would do all of your woodwork with two coats. I’d suggest Little green intelligent eggshell as it’s hard wearing and forgiving to paint with. Again it us £10 more per tin then All Coat, Dulux etc but kitchen and furniture manufacturers use it for a reason!!
Answered9 June 2022
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D c repointing and painting

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Manchester
Spraying is the best solution would always prime regardless of any product saying there's no need its good practice if it's sanded properly and primed properly you can use oil based stain it's used on interior furniture just keep well ventilated
Answered9 June 2022
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