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How would you boost the flow from an unvented cylinder?

Anonymous user 01/03/2024 - 2.57 PM

Hi All, I would really appreciate your help – having a bit of a nightmare with our local plumber. We recently installed a very expensive unvented hot water cylinder and system boiler to achieve the best possible flow to our shower. It replaced a gravity fed system with a 3 bar shower pump, which gave us excellent pressure. My plumber said that the cylinder would give us 4 bar, so slightly better (although after the install he then said it's maximum capacity was 3, then admitted that I would still need a pump as the static pressure in the area wasn't good enough). We didn't install a combi as he said the incoming mains pressure wasn't good enough to give us a decent shower. Incoming mains outside the house is 2 bar, which drops to 1.7 fully open. We've checked that there are no leaks or anything that might reduce the flow inside the house. Flow rate on the kitchen tap before we installed the cylinder was 8 lpm, which my plumber said would be sufficient due to the accumulation of pressure inside the cylinder. I have since learned that they didn't actually test the static pressure only the flow on the kitchen tap. Shower pressure is rubbish – significantly less that we had with the old system and drops off a cliff every time you flush the toilet or open a tap. - What are our options to bring the pressure back up to 3 bar? - Would you install something like a Salamander accumulator ? - Would you just suck it up, learn the lesson and pay what it costs, or try and recover the money from the installer? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Ben

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3 Answers

D & R Property and Plumbing Maintenance

Rating: 4.9 out of 5
New Romney
was your plumber g3 qualified ?, if so he should have known the inlet valve is set at 3 bar, although your unvented cylinder has stored water it operates on mains pressure up to 3 bar, so if you only have 2 bar that's where it works, to gain a real estimate of your mains pressure and volume it should be measured at a time of local high usage ie 6am to 9am and 4pm to 8 pm, for volume that you should check at the same time with a flow cup, it should be 10 to 15 l/min at 8 ltm he should not have recommended an unvented system unless you were going to install accumulator tank and pumps, but you would have to explain to the engineer supplying it just what your water needs are so that he can calculate the size you require ,if it is not big enough you will again be disappointed, always check your engineer is qualified in his field of expertise, your plumber was not.
Answered18 February 2022
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jt property services

Rating: 5 out of 5
Newcastle Upon Tyne
The maximum pressure you can have is what you get off the incoming mains supply as that is how a unvented system works. Clearly your plumber had no clue what he was doing. The only way to boost your mains is to upgrade or upsize your incoming main supply pipe (only if your area has more than the 2 bar max pressure that you currently get otherwise its pointless to do) or you have to get a mains booster pump fitted just after the stopcock in your house and it might boost pressure by 1 to 1.5bar extra than what you have.
Answered1 March 2022
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Steve Barbour Plumbing

Rating: 5 out of 5
Nottingham
Increase mains supply inlet or a booster pump from the outlet of the unvented cylinder .
Answered17 March 2022
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