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Do I need a type A RCD for a new boiler mains supply?

Anonymous user 03/03/2024 - 3.41 PM

I have had a new boiler installed by British Gas. The old boiler was connected to the mains supply via a 13A plug into a standard socket. The new boiler is connected to a fused spur (replacing the old 13A socket) to comply with the new rules. After a boiler breakdown today the engineer said that it has been installed incorrectly and either the fuse board or the fused spur needs to be fitted with a type A RCD to comply with regulations. My fuse board was replaced within the last year and has type AC RCD's fitted. The boiler does not have it's own separate electrical supply so would I be best to have a RCD protected spur fitted or to replace the type AC RCD's with type A? He's not condemned it but put it as a recommendation. I said that British Gas should have checked to make sure it's compliant with building regulations at install but they are not willing to fit an upgraded RCD. They did fit the fused spur though. I would have to get an electrician to modify their work at my cost. Is he correct in saying that a type A must be fitted to comply with regulations?

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Anonymous user

Boilers do not require 30mA RCD protection. However, likely as not the circuit used to supply the spur to the boiler will to have it. Don't be concerned about type A versus type AC RCDs. The main reason they were developed is to enable them to operate if the coil gets saturated with DC leakage current. This is a problem for EV chargers, for example, and lighting circuits with large numbers of LEDs. Boilers do not leak DC current! So ignore the British Gas persons comments. They hear about a new device and make assumptions. Its typical of the misadvice they often give. They should stick to gas and not get involved with the electric side.
Answered23 January 2022
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Mymms Electrical and Home Services Limited

Rating: 4.9 out of 5
Hatfield
It is always interesting to hear the opinions of gas fitters(sorry engineers) on what is and is not a compliant electrical installation. The design of electrical installations takes account of different types of RCDs and their correct use. When selecting the correct RCD for a specific installation the designer should take in to account the nature of the equipment that may be supplied. At the time your installation was designed type AC RCDs were deemed adequate. The electrician was asked to alter the installation and install a FCU for the boiler. Unless your electrician was specifically told the FCU was to supply equipment that required a Type A RCD then the job has been completed to original specification. If the manufacturer of the boiler supplied and fitted by British Gas does specify a Type A RCD then you should have been made aware of this before making alterations to your electrical installation. If you where not told of this requirement then I am not sure how you are liable. Furthermore, they have now fitted a boiler that requires a Type A RCD and you have Type AC protecting your installation they have left your installation in a potentially dangerous state. Let me explain why it is potentially dangerous. The boiler installed may have the protentional to 'blind' your Type AC RCD to other faults. So, it may not operate when it should. The RCD is there to protect you and your family from serious electrical shocks should a fault occur. I would get in touch with British Gas and ask them why they left your property in such a condition.
Answered21 January 2022
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Alectrics Electrical Services

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Crowborough
Assuming that you had a combi boiler recently installed this only require a very little amount of power to "spark" and get the boiler started. Type A RCDs trips from AC currents and DC pulsating currents and are now the new standard but a AC type RCD is perfectly suitable to cover a combi boiler. Hope this helps
Answered21 January 2022
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Anonymous user

If i was replacing a fuseboard, I would install type A Rcbos and a surge protection device to all circuits to fully comply with current regs. The problem is that certain modern appliances such as washing machines with digital inverter drive motor can stop a type AC rcd from operating. The problem with fuseboards is that most customers don't really know what they're paying for and are ending up with cheap bg split load fuseboards with type ac rcds which aren't compliant with current regulations.
Answered21 January 2022
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meo electrical

Rating: 5 out of 5
Bordon
From 28th September 2022 he is correct and at the moment we are going through a transition phase so amendment 1 and amendment 2 are compliant. To keep track with changes in technology the wiring regs frequently change; if the boiler manufacturer recommends a type A is fitted then the BG man is correct. The consumer unit fitted with type AC was compliant at the time of fitting and type A's may not have been readily available at that time. Interestingly Germany prohibited the use of Type ACs in the 1980s so the UK is a bit behind. So much for the 17th edition electrical harmonisation with the EU!
Answered12 September 2022
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