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Windows & Door fitting

Is it occur to cut top cut off a new upvc door frame and install without cill?

Anonymous user 09/03/2024 - 3.25 PM

Hi, a fensa registered company measured, ordered and installed my new upvc door. Unfortunately the door frame was too high. So the installer cut 2 to 3 cm of top of the frame, (so you could see the hollow frame from top) and said it was ok as he would put foam on top and silicone round it. He was also unable to fit the cill under the frame and just said it was not required (so why was a cill provided?). From what I can tell when I put underfloor heating and tiles on the floor, the door which sits on the outerbrick will be an inch lower than the floor. Is this ok? Does cutting the frame compromise the door or frame in anyway? Does it weaken the structure, allow moisture in etc? What is the purpose of the cill if its not required? Does it prevent water ingress? Is this an acceptable practice from a fensa registered co. If not should I involve my building inspector if not what are my remedies? I m looking for advice and info before approaching the contractor, so thanks in advance. I m baffled as to why a made to measure needed to be cut. Update: to be clear the door has not been cut, it is the top of the surrounding frame - i am assuming thats still not great, but not as bad as cutting door. Secondly the contractor is saying it is a low ali french door and therefore does not need a cill. I obviously am not an expert on this to contradict him. So who can I involve to arbitrate. Does fensa provide arbitration, or can my building inspector check this out, as its a new extension

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5 Answers

Anonymous user

Hi, I think you already know the answer to the first question of does cutting the door compromise the structural integrity of the door and that answer is 100% yes. The door itself is made up in such a way that every piece of the frame is needed for it to keep its structural integrity! Also the cill of the door is provided to stop the water making it’s way into your home there for if there is no cill there’s a high chance the door will not be performing as it should.
Answered26 November 2021
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Anonymous user

Someone is accountable for the measuring error , cutting off the top and removing the sill is a considerable poor surveying job , the sill is a major item on a door , designed to deflect water from the door on to a sloping sill . Any cutting of a upvc door is wrong , fitter should of measured the door before removing the old one which would of prevented any problems later . Simply needs a new door manufactured and installed .
Answered27 November 2021
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Infinite Double Glazing

Rating: 5 out of 5
Brighton
Hello, Agreed with everyone else, cutting the top of the frame is unacceptable and they are trying to make up for their own mistake. This is highly against regulations. However as for the window cill it is their to prevent water leaking in and moisture/damp buildup. It is ok to remove cill if you take correct procedure. A few scenarios you could have is to add a form of lead tray to project the water, the door could be face draining or there is already an existing cill (concrete/timber). Thanks, Infinite Double Glazing
Answered4 December 2021
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Weatherbeater contractors ltd

Rating: 5 out of 5
Wellington
Unfortunately the new door has not been measured or made correctly
Answered26 November 2021
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Connor Baitup

Rating: 5 out of 5
Deal
The door should defiantly have been fitted with the cill, unless the fitter drilled for face drainage , then you will have water building up inside of the frame and coming up inside , causing damp, the cill is there to drain the water and stop it coming indoors , this door needs re ordering and replacing .
Answered25 August 2022
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