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Concrete wall vs gravel boards to build 3 sided fence on a bank (steep slope 1-3 m high)

Anonymous user 23/02/2024 - 3.42 PM

Hi Everyone, I would like to ask your expert advice in how to build a fence on a bank (steep slope 1-3 m high). Please see photos. Background: The house is next to an open field. The field is on a higher ground which was filled with land. This ground is higher than the house. https://photos.app.goo.gl/wQkytm1Yc9QeK56Y7 Option 1: Building a concrete wall 3 sides after clearing the whole area As the boundary of the fence is on a high and lower ground, should we dig down to flatten and clear the ground for the fence? If we clear the soil and build a concrete wall, 3 sides, we don't know over the time if the ground on the high level will push the concrete wall + the fence (one side) when the ground is wet. (In the past, we have a garden like this . Over the time, we started to see crack on the wall, as the force on the high ground started to push against the wall) Option 2 : Build a trench for 2 gravel boards stacking up If we only dig down to create a trench for putting down two gravel boards stacking up on each other. Without flatten and clear the ground too much, the bank or the slope is still remained and the soil will act as a barrier. Is this option better than option 1? The builder told us that the 2 gravel boards stacking up will not be even when we build a trench. The barrier will not be deep enough to hold the force and will be pushed away. Building a concrete wall is an expensive option but better. So the main questions are 1) Should we clear the area on a bank before installing a fence ? We can clear the area, but then we will have to reinforce the lower ground with something else as the ground level is divided even more and we will have to maintain this barrier. 2) Can we use the gravel boards instead of building a concrete wall ? Many thanks for your advice.

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3 Answers

Aspectworks

Rating: 4.5 out of 5
Poole
In order to provide the best accurate answer, an inspection is required. To provide a more generalised answer, first of all, concrete posts are required in between the concrete gravel boards, so providing them with a solid base is essential, that cannot be changed so a solution must work from there. The gradient must be taken into account for the next part but I would provide the foundation of the posts a concrete base block - in the region of 4 foot deep, 2-4 foot wide, which would underpin the post foundations. That (dependent on the gradient) would be a method that would help to prevent further subsidence, and also help to stabilise the slope for the future, including the weight of the entire fence (if you intend to use gravel boards from top to bottom + concrete posts). A concrete wall again would need sufficient underpinning, or you will start to encounter subsidence by way of the wall cracking, leaning or giving way.
Answered8 August 2021
5

Anonymous user

I agree with Aspectworks in that a viewing probably needs to be carried out before any details can be firmed up as its hard to know whats what from the pictures... what I would say is that in my opinion, concrete gravel boards and posts are NOT a substitute for a retaining wall. Yes they can hold back a certain amount but basically your asking a a concrete gravel board stretched between 2 posts concreted into the groud to hold back many tonnes of earth. Add to that fact that when it rains it will possibly double or even triple in weight and want to move to the lowest point then your asking for trouble in the long term. You also have stated its on a slope, so you would possibly need longer posts to take up the slope and maintain a depth in the ground for stability. not only that, even if you dug a trench, concreted that trench encasing the posts and then using the gravel boards to hold back the ground... what you effectively started is the bases for a wall.. why not just build the wall? Once the wall is in, it only needs to be the height of the ground its containing... you can then install a fence independant of that wall and have many years trouble free. This is just my opinion, coming from a bricklaying and fencing background. I hope it helps in some way. many thanks Darren
Answered29 August 2021
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Smith Property

Rating: 5 out of 5
Kettering
As the previous Builder has said" I Need to look before a solid solution could be given". However another way of doing it would be RSJs concreted in and old sleepers inserted into the RSJ's. Put Smith Property into google search and you will see a picture of how we held back a slope using this method for a fire escape path around a college building in Corby. Regards Simon Smith
Answered31 August 2021
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