What kind of Electrical Certificate do I need? And is the work notifiable?
Anonymous user 09/03/2024 - 3.19 PM
We've recently renovated our flat. The tradesman (self-proclaimed Project Manager) hire contractors for the job. We've recently had a falling out with him and we discovered he's using loopholes to run his company. Anyway, bashing aside, I would like to know what kind of electrical certificate we need. I have contacted NICEIC to ask whether it’s the electrical installer who issues the electrical certificate or if we can hire an external electrical contractor to do this for us. NICEIC confirmed that the installer needs to issue this certificate but can use an external contractor if they are willing to do it. But before I go and hire someone else, I need to confirm what I need and if Building Control needs to be notified. The person who did the rewiring is still studying towards his NICEIC certification so the contractor who’s going to verify and issue a certificate is will be qualified electrical contractor hired by the PM. But since we’ve had a falling out with the PM we don’t want to go through him anymore. Unfortunately according to Citizen Advice, Electrical Certification was part of the agreement so we need to go through the PM to get this certificate.
We have added additional electrical points (downlights and sockets), a fan in the bathroom, and a socket for a LED mirror in the bathroom. The fuse box is replaced with a new one.
Is this notifiable work - Part P of Building Regulations?
Thank you!!
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Yes this work is notifiable to LABC. Consumer unit and work in the bathroom. Along with this work you should receive an Electrical Installation Certificate and possibly a minor works certificate if extras have been added to existing circuits. Don’t accept an EICR as it’s not correct. On the subject of third party testing, which is what this is, the third party should be nominated before any work started or should have gone through LABC. NICEIC do not allow third party testing, some other providers do ( I think) Personally, I’m not allowed to third party test either, but I wouldn’t anyway as you are taking responsibility/signing for someone else’s work.
As above, but be careful as no Electrican has a legal obligation to notify your local council of any work undertaken (part p) this obligation always falls into the hands of the homeowner. NICEIC are just a middleman that do this for contractors.(aswell as other things but they are a rip off) if the contractor made you aware before you gave him the job that the person doing the electrical work wasn't NCEIC registered then all you will be issued is a non NICEiC EICR, and it will fall down to the owner to do the Part P side of things. I'm not but always tell customers before hand being registered with a governing body.
Answered25 February 2021
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Anonymous user
Yes, Building Control Notification needed for the work in a bathroom and doing a consumer unit change. The contractor conducting the works should be the person to issue an Electrical Installation Certificate. See if you can go direct to the contractor.
Answered1 March 2022
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Anonymous user
Yes this is notifiable works. If the fuseboard was not changed it would need a minor works certificate however as the fuseboard has been changed a Electrical Installation Certificate is required as the distribution unit has been completely removed and reinstalled.
Correct - EIC for new consumer unit and rewire if you had one. If it's a complete rewire this covers the works carried out meaning no minor works required. Fire alarm certificates if any smoke/heat detectors were installed and notifiable works to be submitted.
Yes, this is, as is the general consensus on the thread, notifiable works. An Electrical Installation Certificate (EIC) will be required as is the case with any new circuits or changes to the consumer unit. Minor works certificates are only issued for additions or alterations to an existing circuit.
Answered5 January 2024
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Anonymous user
You can’t produce a EIC if you have not conducted the works requested! What you will need to do is get an approved electrician to carry out an EICR report, This way it covers the electrician carrying out the testing works required and also covers you for building control, if you’ve not done the works you can’t officially sign it off!! NICEIC or NAPIT will pull your pants down! FACT 👍🏻
You can not issue a Electrical installation certificate of your not the one who carried out the initial first and second fix of the install and carried out the necessary steps on initial verification and testing on the install. The only thing that can be done with someone who has already carried the install is to carry out a Electrical Installation condition report. Minor works will be needed for add ons to circuits, but a new consumer unit will require a Electrical installation certificate with details describing the work done as well as all circuits supplied from the consumer unit tested ensuring the circuits meet the requirements set by bs7671.