Plumber installed unvented cylinder but is not qualified
Anonymous user 09/03/2024 - 3.15 PM
Just had an old immersion replaced with a pressure cylinder. The plumber is gas safe reg'd and says the system is unvented. He's finished installing it and I asked him if he will notify building control. He shook his head and basically fudged the issue. Trouble is I have sold my house and have just a few weeks left. My queries are: Should I pay him in full? Would another contractor be able to certify it and notify BC or should I just ask BC if they can come out and certify it? If all else fails would Building Regs Indemnity Insurance suffice? Thanks.
NB: My house is all electric (no gas). I have queried the situation anonymously with Gas Safe who say he cannot certify it if he does not have a G3 and therefore he should not have even installed it. I phoned my local Scottish Borders BC who said they do not require notification so that's good.
My plumber is leaving me with no option but to instruct HIM to find a G3 installer to sign this off and if not, then I will have to find a qualified engineer to do it and knock this off his bill.
Further Edit: If all else fails and I can't get anyone else to certify, am I right in considering having the entire cylinder reinstalled by a G3 engineer and then certified? I know it will cost me but my house sale is on the line here
Are you a tradesperson and able to answer this question?
He should certify this installation - it is always difficult with holding money. Personally I would talk to him advise how you feel - he can certify this through gas safe and he should have nothing to worry about unless he is not unvented qualified or has not fitted it correctly.
My opinion is why all the Gas engineer think they are qualified plumber as well? I don't understand. To be a plumber you can go to collage 2 years and be plumber alongside gas safe but if you do Level 3 then become engineer.
I am plumbing & heating engineer but not gas safe so I would not do any job involving gas simple even though I know how to.
Going back to your issue please do require fully G3 qualified Plumber to be able to sort the issue.
To install a unvented hot water cylinder need to be/hold g3 certificate, being gas safe engineer is not sufficient qualification to install unvented cylinders (unvented cylinders need to be notified/certifed) to building control
To install a unvented hot water cylinder need to be/hold g3 certificate, being gas safe engineer is not sufficient qualification to install unvented cylinders (unvented cylinders need to be notified/certifed) to building control
We can and do sign of other plumbers and Gas engineers work if fitted correctly this is allowed within the Benchmark scope of installations. We then issue a Safety Cert and submit to the Building Control.
Now if you rent out a house or sell a house with an Unvented Cylinder you need an Unvented Safety Cert, just like a GAS Cert (if is has Gas) So do not think your Gas Engineer can do both regardless of the "Competant Person" Scheme
Above applied to England where we are in Birmingham. I cannot say it is the same in Scotland. So check, as your money is a different colour let alone your laws.
Needs to hold G3 certificate
Please search web for full information
I would disagree that a Gas safe engineer can install and maintain a pressurised system
To late now but it is always checking for correct qualifications before an installation
Cannot see you can delay payment unless you agreed on certification but it is my opinion he should have not installed the system without correct qualification
I doubt if BC would be able to help and is not required
Further to your edit I am glad my info was correct and hopefully you can find someone to certify anothers work
Sometimes difficult