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FOGHORN when drawing hot water but only after the water tank has been heated.

Anonymous user 03/03/2024 - 3.32 PM

I have actually asked this question before, about 3 years ago I think. Unfortunately the problem has re-occured but I think this may go some way to help a professional come up with the reason; My set up is as follows...a very large water tank in the airing cupboard with white expansion vessel above but no cold water header tank. I think it's called a mains pressure unvented cylinder?? The last time it started was just after I had the expansion tank replaced because it started leaking. I called the plumber back but he fixed it while I was not present but my wife 'thinks' he said he had to reduce the pressure. I assume this was the pressure in the new expansion vessel. Whatever, it fixed the foghorn. About a month ago the replacement expansion tank was found to be leaking. A different plumber was called and fitted another new expansion tank. Yet again, a week or two after that we started getting the foghorn again! Interestingly, the foghorn only happens on the first draw of hot water after the water has been heated. If the timer is set to heat the hot water at 8pm, the foghorn only happens when drawing water when we retire to bed. If I set it to heat the water at 8am, the foghorn will occur on the first draw of hot water after that, whether it be at 10am or later in the afternoon. I called this plumber back but he said it was just all coincidental. He said he had set the pressure in the expansion vessel to the manufacturers recommendations. He did also mention something about a 2 or 3 way valve that has been fitted down near the floor should really have been located up higher much nearer to the expansion vessel and that these can fail. So my questions are: 1. Why would the second expansion vessel start leaking after only 3 years? 2. What is causing the systen to make this noise. It surely must be pressure related as it only occurs after the water is heated and I am assuming that the first draw of hot water is releasing some pressure from the system. Thank you in advance.

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2 Answers

Martin House Plumbing Services

Rating: 4.8 out of 5
Lymington
I disagree with the previous reply as you wouldn't get air drawn in to a pressurised system. I would suggest that it could be a faulty pressure reducing valve in the inlet combination valve. These are usually set at 3 bar with a 6 bar pressure relief valve to vent, either if the mains pressure becomes too high, the expansion vessel diaphragm fails or the water expansion becomes too great. Things to do before just replacing the above are: Check the water temperature is not becoming excessively hot, it shouldn't be more than 58 degrees C. Then check the tundish from the pressure relief & temperature relief valves, the 2 discharge pipes are likely joined. See if you are having, or have had any discharge into the tundish. It could be that you have a faulty pressure relief valve which is discharging as the cylinder gets hot & then chatters when relieving the pressure when drawing water. Same goes for the temperature relief valve if the water is getting very hot. This could also explain why you are having issues with the expansion vessel. It would seem that for some reason the system is over pressurising & it is probably that it's getting too hot. If that is the case then check the thermostats are working correctly & if connected to a wet heating system that the motorised valve is working correctly. You may still find that 1 or both of the relief valves have been damaged by now too, if indeed there has been a long term discharge issue. I hope this helps.
Answered11 January 2021
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GJ Chapman Plastering/Building

Rating: 5 out of 5
Romford
Sounds like it is taking in air somewhere hence the noise .blesd the system .
Answered18 September 2020
1