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C3 outcome on ‘4.18’ from EICR (“No RCD for some circuits”)

Anonymous user 23/02/2024 - 3.34 PM

Hello I recently had an EICR done at a rented property. All pass except a C3 outcome on ‘4.18 RCD(s) provided for fault protection...’ comment being “No RCD for some circuits” and therefore recommended for improvement. The EICR issued is also recommending next check in 3 years (reason for not 5 years given by company: engineer likely put is due to no RCD for some circuits). Report Summary:- Extent of report: Electrical installation. Consumer unit, Sockets Circuits, Lighting Circuits, Cooker Circuit and Bonding. Fixed Wiring Only. 10% of circuits where accessible. Limitations: Tested in accordance with GN3 table 3.4. Tested in accordance with GN table 3.3 for inspection and 3.4 for testing. Limited dismantling. Erection methods only visually verified. Zs testes done at all accessable sockets and lightning points. 10% of circuits where accessable in accordance with GN3 table 3.3. Cables are secured and torqued against manufacturers instructions. Is it plausible for the above scenario validate an EICR for only 3 years, or would other factors come into play? Also, is it a requirement for all circuits to have RCD otherwise a C3 rating is given? Presume no RCD is referring to the first 6 MCB circuits in the consumer unit (or specific circuits from these 6) that are not RCCB controlled. I don't think any of these MCB circuits are wall sockets - not sure if this is relevant. Also, what are the various options for improvement? Many thanks in advance, H

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4 Answers

DEACON ELECTRICAL SERVICES

Rating: 5 out of 5
Grimsby
A C3 is “ improvement recommend “ if your installation came out as satisfactory then I really don’t know why, if it’s a rented Property it wasn’t valid for 5 years, or change of occupancy/ tenant whichever comes first. The RCD issue is non applicable if the original installation was designed pre BS 7671 2008.if it’s rented then of course the Rcd’s /rcbo’s Would be preferable, that’s why he has given it a C3. It’s all down to how the inspector calls it though.
Answered2 September 2020
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Internal Repairs

Rating: 5 out of 5
Epsom
Lucky to get away with a C3. What did the last inspection say? Assuming you had one done being a responsible landlord.
Answered2 September 2020
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I Mills Electrics

Rating: 5 out of 5
Croydon
Good evening, in simple terms it’s required for all circuits to be protected by RCD’s within domestic properties. Regulations state clearly circuits passing through an area with a bath or shower require RCD protection, cables buried less than 50mm in walls etc etc. C3 states installation does not meet current regulations but is not unsafe and further investigation may be required. However you may find some electricians will grade no RCD protection on lighting circuits passing through a bathroom C2, you state Zs tests have been carried out but no mention of continuity or insulation resistance testing was this carried out ?
Answered2 September 2020
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Anonymous user

Possibly recommended 3 years due to a small sample being available for testing. If rcd is there for fault protection then this wouldn’t necessarily be a 30ma rcd and therefore wouldn’t be applicable to sockets anyway. If it’s a 30 ma for additional protection then a C3 is a good call to make you aware of suggestions to improve safety.
Answered2 September 2020
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