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Painting & Decorating

Fresh plaster, matt, silk, made a right hash of things :(

Anonymous user 09/03/2024 - 3.13 PM

Hi Hoping for some help and advice. Recently purchased a property to renovate, have had several things done, running short on cash so inevitably have done the homeowner thing and tried to do stuff ourselves... Everywhere has been freshly plastered , and the plaster is dry (completed some weeks ago). We’ve nearly finished one room paint wise and it’s clear that something is really wrong. We’ve tried to read up about doing this properly but... This is what we did: - applied two coats of watery matt emulsion (Leyland) to fresh plaster, a days drying time in between each coat. - applied two coats of silk emulsion (leyland) on top, a days drying time in between each coat. The emulsion peels off down to the matt coat and in some places the bare plaster, at the slightest touch. Used masking tape to do woodwork, went to carefully remove and took off half the bloody wall of emulsion... What have we done to cause this? Is it technique? Materials? Problem with the plaster? Please help. And please be kind - we’re struggling with a new business and two babies in the middle of a house renovation and we won’t be able to afford to get someone in to help for some time... Thanks in advance :) Update 1 - Thanks for the reply Internal Repairs! The paint does both - peels between layers and peels back to the bare plaster, it depends on how much ‘force’ as such is put on it. The masking tape incident - peeled off down to the thinned matt coats. My husband tried to remove a clump of dust/something or other stuck in the top silk coat, picked at it and it peeled back to bare plaster. We will try to get some opinions on it from others... Update 2 - thanks for the reply D.A. Collins Decorating! The plaster was pinky in colour when we started painting and it was a good period of time after it had been done, so we assumed it was dry? Perhaps wrongly? We may have to go for the sealants you suggested - daft question most likely, but we have to sand the walls down to the plaster again before using the primer right?

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4 Answers

Internal Repairs

Rating: 5 out of 5
Epsom
Bad plastering. Over worked top layer to get a smooth finish means it has no strength. Basically becasue it has been spread about alot while it was setting it loses all the bonding strength. You did the right thing with the mist coating. DOn't think it's your fault. The only option is sanding back to the plaster and hopefully to a less overworked layer. Or sand back a bit and reskim. Take pictures first. gather evidence. You should be able to get compensation through small claims. Get expert opinion on site. NB. Re-reading your question. If its peeling between paint layers then there could be an issue with the paint I don't understand. If it peels back to the plaster then it could be a plastering issue that I outlined. I definitely think you should seek out lots of opinion in case it is bad plastering at fault.
Answered19 August 2020
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D.A.Collins Decorating

Rating: 5 out of 5
Reading
Sounds like the plaster wasnt fully dry and moisture still in it. Using matt emulsion (not vinyl matt) would have been ok, if it was thinned out to absorb into the plaster. The problem is using silk emulsion which is not ideal and likely to peel.. The only choice you have is go to Brewers or similar trade outlet and buy a wall primer sealant. I would recommend Zinsser. Peel stop or Cover stain. Both are quite expensive, but will give you a solid base to re-do the walls again in your choice of paint (zinsser comes in white, but can be tinted to nrar your required colour finish)
Answered19 August 2020
1

Anonymous user

Agree with both above but my one and only experience of Leyland paint was a disaster. Different paint might help and preferably Matt to start.
Answered19 August 2020
1

Castle View Property Maintenance

Rating: 5 out of 5
Oswestry
Maybe try lining paper over the surface do a small section first and good strong paste
Answered21 August 2020
1