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Leaving ceiling light connections safe when removing/detaching for replastering

Anonymous user 23/02/2024 - 3.26 PM

We have a plasterer coming to remove ornamental plaster ceiling roses on several our ceilings. I need to take down the current lights that are usually hanging from centre of plaster rose -usually connected from a small plastic rose that is connected to main wiring. Having taken the light away , what is the recommended way to safely deal with this plastic connection to allow plasterer to remove plaster ceiling rose and reskim.Presumably I can disconnect all power from mains ,then; 1. unscrew from ceiling and leave connected and pull out several inches of wiring away from access hole to allow space for plastering 2.or disconnect and safely affix wiring to plastic enclosed block connector to safely insulate? Advice?Thanks

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5 Answers

Anonymous user

Safest to remove completely, terminate into wago type connectors. Tape up well and isolate power whilst plasterer is working at fuse board. Take a pic of your rose first
Answered30 August 2019
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Anonymous user

Unscrew the fixing screws on rose base Ensure power is off first as you said you can pull down cable from above Then put the rose cover back on the rose base and screw tighten don't listen to these guys who say use wago/tape etc unless your exprienced After plastering finished reversal of above
Answered3 September 2019
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Bespoke Security Solutions Ltd

Rating: 5 out of 5
Stockport
Hi, I would recommend wago leaver connectors. Please note that you may need at least 3 way https://www.screwfix.com/p/3-way-lever-connector-222-series-pack-of-50/76776 connectors or 5 way https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-5-way-lever-connector-221-series-32a-pack-of-25/5201R?tc=DB9&ds_kid=92700046181288812&ds_rl=1249401&ds_rl=1241687&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1248181&ds_rl=1249484&gclid=CjwKCAjwtajrBRBVEiwA8w2Q8IFenWBZgGrFduE3qOmGfdiYAVHZl_9zmYVGRLFeVZKuZOfwlXCTDxoC2BQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds take a photo before removing and please note which cables are connected together and transfer them to the connectors. For the protection we use dedicated boxes: https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-junction-box/7355f I hope it helps. Bespoke Security Solutions Ltd
Answered1 September 2019
0

M.S. Electrical Services

Rating: 5 out of 5
Luton
Switch the power off, unscrew the ceiling rose cover, unscrew 2 woodscrews holding ceiling rose, pull it down and screw the cover back on. The plasterer should have enough space and would be able to plaster. The other way more comfortable for plasterer would be as recommended by others to terminate cables in wagos but for that I would strongly advice you get an electrician and not to do it yourself.
Answered8 September 2019
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Angel Property Maintenance

Rating: 4.9 out of 5
Basingstoke
Connecting a light is a nightmare for anyone who doesn't know what they are doing. This is why most people are recommending that you do not disconnect the wires to the ceiling rose. Ideally just unscrew it from the ceiling, slide the back plate down the wire and leave the ceiling rose dangling with the wires safely between the back plate and the front plate. Turn the power off at the consumer unit when the plasterer is working. If you do not have enough wire tucked up in the ceiling to do that, then you need to be really sure where each wire is attached before you disconnect. Lighting circuits are a nightmare. Most still use the old red and black wiring. Red is live and black is neutral but at least one of those black wires will come from the switch and be a live wire disguised as a neutral. If you are extremely lucky, it will have a brown or red sleeve on the end but don't count on it. If you really must disconnect the wires in the ceiling rose, start by taking a photo so you know what you are aiming at when you put it back together. Then get some stick labels and label all the wires. Just number them from left to right. Don't let the colours mislead you. It might look stupid but at least you will be able to put the wires back where you got them from, which will be almost impossible if you just think "oh a black wire goes here". The ends of the wires should be capped with wago clips. These are little boxes that snap shut once the wire is inside and are considered safer than connector blocks as the wire is fully enclosed with no screws exposed. Finally, have you thought of asking the plasterer what he would like you to do about the light? He probably comes across this all the time and may be happy to remove the light. After all, he is the one who will get an electric shock if it all goes wrong so he may feel more confident if he has done it himself. Personally, I dislike working around things that others have made safe and it takes almost as long to check as to make it safe myself.
Answered11 November 2019
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