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Paint coming off front of house as not re-rendered properly. How do I remedy?

Anonymous user 15/03/2024 - 2.48 PM

October last year I had the front of a Victorian house redecorated by a builder. It was in a bad state of repair as it had not been done for 30 years. The entire basement and first floor around the bay window is masonry and was painted white. As this area was in the worst state of repair it was meant to be re-rendered in places. However, I now realise Polyfiller (apparently meant to be for internal and external work) was used instead of any render. The paint then directly applied which was of good quality. A Sandtex masonry paint. Within the first rainfall the paint started to bubble and come off. I do not have the money to employ anyone again; and will do myself if I can. I had been told that if I used a stabilising solution over the Polyfiller once any paint that was loose was removed this would work. However, today I started to scrape and sand a section of the loose paint off. It looked like I had successfully scraped all loose paint off…but, more paint started to bubble and come off. I guess this does not surprise me, as that is exactly what happens when rain gets underneath it. So...Question: should I scrape after rainfall? And then sand when dry? Then attempt stabilising solution again? I am beginning to think any paint left on will continue to bubble and come off each time I do this…Thinking, I will end up repeating this process over and over, until by the time I have finished there will be no paint left at all anyway, but there will be Polyfiller over most of the wall surfaces which will be pockmarked and need filling. Toupret has been recommended to use as a filler. However, for these large areas that are mostly Polyfiller with paint over – would it be possible to instead of remove all the paint, just do a skim of render; or use a Toupret product called Planerex? However, please, if there is any way, anyone knows, I can do this job without meaning I have to do this skimming of render, as I am not a plaster, I would be grateful to know what I might do. Thanks.

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Anonymous user

Hi Rose, Unfortunately as you say the walls have not been decorated in 30 years so the damage is done. Just trying to fill and paint over bad render ( esp in a basement with external ground water ) is not going to solve it. Your wasting your time and money using a water based product like sandtex in an area that is subject to constantly wet areas from rainfall and ground water. We specialise in this type of works but space and time here wont allow me to give you a fuller explanation on the solution ( other than hack off, re render, specialist permeable coating applied ). As you say you cant afford to get the work done again and need to do it yourself, so i would suggest you do this for now. Strip all paint off as much as possible, leave it to dry out as much as possible, contact SIKA TECHNICAL DEPARTMENT, and they will advise on there best product to seal the basement walls, and a suitable paint / coating to finish it off with. Once this is done you may want to apply a clear waterproof silicone coating to raw brickwork areas that meet up to the painted areas ( this stops water going under the painted areas. So many variations to your problem but I hope this answer helps in some way. Feel free to contact me for free no obligation advice if you still cannot resolve it or if SIKA cant help. Regards Mick Taylor MASTEX
Answered7 September 2019
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Anonymous user

Hi it sound like they use an internal filler and used emulsion paint as this is what would happen. If they've used emulsion as you know emulsion is meant to be for inside not outside. So I would take all loose paint off and then stabilize the wall and apply a Dulux masonry paint to it. Hope this will help
Answered24 May 2019
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steven foley painter and decorator

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Dundee
There will be moisture in the walls so it doesn’t matter what you do to it there will be problems you should scrape all the bad bits away and bore small holes into the walls and leave it and let the moisture escape once it’s dried out properly get a plasterer to sort any bad bits then stabilising prime any new plaster then paint using any good oil based masonry paint
Answered7 September 2019
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Anonymous user

Other way is to just strip all paint and loose filler from mansonary with heat gun or chemical paint remover, then apply stabilizer do some filling with good quality exterior filler, sand it ,then prime and use quality exterior mansonary paint.
Answered7 September 2019
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Bullseye decorating

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Stockport
It would need to be re rendered in my opinion all old filler removed of rendered properly with the right paint I.e Johnson's stormshields paints not using sealer to solve the problem
Answered7 September 2019
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