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Bungalow Alarm System Requirments and Old CCTV Cameras

Anonymous user 03/03/2024 - 3.19 PM

Hi I have done this as a question as opposed to a job as I am mid way through a house purchase. There is currently no alarm system in the bungalow. I'll try and describe the layout and see if anyone can give me advice on what I need in terms of door sensors and PIRs. The Front door opens straight into the hallway. To the right is the lounge. Straight ahead is the door for the kitchen. The kitchen leads onto a utility room (through a external door) and the utility leads to a conservatory. To the left is a bedroom. Next door on the left is the bathroom and next to that is a bedroom. External access wise there are 3 points of entry: Front door - Standard Lounge - Patio Door Consevatory - French Doors I assume the door sensors would go on these. PIR wise The hallway would initially be covered by the front Door sensor. Kitchen would need one. Utility room possibly? Conservatory? Unsure about the bedrooms as they have windows so door/window sensors could be installed. It might be overkill so Thought I'd ask as I'm looking at a Yale Smart System. And lastly I will also need to add a DVR to the existing CCTV setup as the vendor is taking the current DVR. With regards to this can I just add any DVR as the cameras are unbranded. Thanks in advance.

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3 Answers

Go2 Security Ltd

Rating: 4.9 out of 5
Corby
Hi mistertml I suggest not getting a Yale system as I spend most of my time taking them out within a year for the customer putting it in. I would suggest a Pyronix Enforcer V10 App system, if you get the KIT3 this comes with Enforcer Panel with a Wi-Fi card built in, 1 x Wireless Door Contact, 3 x Wireless PET Pirs & Wireless Bell Box Modula. You will need to get a Pyronix Delta Bll Box Back Plate & Lid as well, all this should come to about £350 ish. For extra items you will be looking at: Std Wireless Pirs About £50 each DT Wireless Pirs About £75 Each (For Conservatory) Wireless Door Contact About Each £50 Wireless Smoke or CO2 Detectors About £75 Labour About £300 I would not put all those Wireless Door Contact up, I would put the door contact on the front door and then put Wireless Pirs in the rooms you need to protect. I hope this helps, you can message me if you have any questions. Kind Regards Carl
Answered4 December 2018
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Get Cameras London

Rating: 3 out of 5
Southgate, London
I would agree with Carl about Yale systems. Pyronix is our preferred brand these days too after seeing Yale go down hill in recent years. In particular the dial out feature can be flaky and too many PIRs seem to fail or even arrive non functioning. As regards the CCTV, the best way to find this out is to look at the wiring going into the back of the DVR. Is it BNC plus power or is it just Cat 5 (network cable). If BNC plus power then you could be looking at replacing the whole wiring. However if it's just cat 5 this suggests they are IP cameras using POE (power over Ethernet) and many DVRs will work with most IP cameras. It would help to get a professional to have a look and maybe even bring a test DVR to check. Feel free to contact us. Tim & Max @ Get Cameras, London
Answered17 January 2019
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Anonymous user

A professional alarm company shouldn't offer you a system you can buy from Cost Co. B&Q and Screwfix. You should look for brands like Pyronix, Texecom, Orisec, Risco and other alarm manufacturers. Orisec and Texecom are made in the UK, Pyronix is currently made in the UK but is now part of Hikvision, known for the value CCTV brand. Look up on forums about Yale alarms and Swann CCTV, think you may find it useful. If going wireless, you need to think about the alarm panel location and the location of the wireless devices. Avoid large metal objects within 1M of a device where possible Also to consider is frequency hoping, this is where a wireless system can use a different frequency to communicate with the panel if a frequency is jammed, Pyronix, Orisec and Visonic have wireless systems that can do this and you will have to check the equipment on Pyronix and Visonic panels to make sure its a frequency hop system. As for required sensors, I personally don't recommend pet pirs wireless or otherwise as the way they work is pretty much blocking anything out under 4ft tall, its more complicated than that for some sensors. However consider a cat climbing above 1.2M(4ft) the PIR will trigger, consider a person under 1.2M the alarm may not trigger. Often kits contain petwise sensors and I and others are regularly trying to stop manufacturers from doing this. Otherwise I would recommend QD(quad element) PIR's for pretty much everywhere except conservatories and garages where I would recommend a DT (dual technology). Door contacts and shocks, on some systems its possible to have one device split as a door contact om one zone and a shock sensor on another, this can be useful to create a pre warning that someone is trying to break in before the door is opened. This does depend on the manufacturers devices available and how thy can be programmed. CCTV NVR/DVR, seems madness to take it out and leave the cameras probably came as a cheap kit if its unbranded. In this case I would always recommend you ask the vendor for the currently details of the DVR/NVR and or cameras installed so you can find a suitable replacement. Not all CCTV is the same, so without knowing what you have, can't advise on compatibility. Things you need to consider:- 1. How are the camera's connected BNC, BNC plus power, Cat5E. 2. How many channels are connected 3. camera resolution. 4.Technology 5.Manufacturer For example a Hikvision Turbo DVR will accept 2MP on version1, on Turbo 4 the DVR could accept 5MP or 8MP depending on the DVR model. Some analogue DVR's can add IP cameras over the home network, depending on the DVR will depend if you can add any, just 2 or multiple units, the resolution capability may differ. There are several analogue technologies out there, using bnc connectors, if the DVR can't handle the technology of your camera it will not work properly if at all. IP cameras, use many different protocols, so may need to look at using the ONVIF protocols if the DVR/NVR isn't from the same manufacturer as the camera. Using ONVIF, can lose some of the cameras features compared to using the manufacturers protocol. If you have shotgun cable, bnc and power, then you may need a separate power supply to power the cameras, if just BNC connection then the system may be POC and you would need a DVR with POC outlet or a separate power supply and a balun to inject power into the coax cable. As you can see the CCTV options are numerous so it is complicated selecting the correct DVR without knowing exactly what you have, so the best place to start is to find out what vendor was using for the DVR/NVR to start with including manufacturer and model.
Answered1 April 2019
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