Hi,
we would like to remove a stud wall between our kitchen and front room and extend our kitchen a little in the actual front room. We also need to create a false ceiling in the actual kitchen to hide away the cables and extractors' hoses but we would like to extend this false ceiling in the front room to cover the extended kitchen area. Basically, the effect we are trying to achieve here is having a false ceiling over the new kitchen area and not only over the old kitchen area, to make it look uniform rather than two different and separate areas. Hope this makes sense?
Our doubt is... how can the false ceiling be supported in the front room bit? In the kitchen the false ceiling will have the support of 3 walls, the back wall of the kitchen that divides our flat with our neibourgh's, the right hand side wall that is the external wall and the left hand side which is a stud wall dividing kitchen and bathroom. However once you move into the actual front room, the stud wall ends and there is only the external wall that could support the false ceiling.
Is there any way we can extend this false ceiling into the front room without having to put a column or something like that to support it from the floor?
This false ceiling extension into the front room will be approx 1m long and 1.8m wide, and will be approx 50cm high from the actual ceiling down.
Hope this is clear,
thanks!
Answers:
Excellence Homes: at the moment, the front room ceiling and the kitchen ceiling are at the same height, approximately 3.30-3.40m. We want to reduce it of 50 cm bringing it to a height of approx 2.80-2.90 which is still enough I reckon (is it not?).
Stamford properties: I think the first option sounds more secure. Do you think this would mean having to reach the joists and maybe creating disruption to the above flat? How much do you think this job professionally done would cost?
The false ceiling area will be 2m x 1.9m in the actual kitchen area + 1m x 1.9m in the extension into the front room, for a total of 3m x 1.9m.
Are you a tradesperson and able to answer this question?
Not quite clear on whether the new false ceiling will be the same level as the existing front room ceiling or whether there will be a 50cm step which sounds quite a lot?
But if the new ceiling extended beyond the existing kitchen area is only 1.8m wide x 1m long then you should not have any problem hanging it from the joists above as there will not be a huge weight issue.
Hi, yes 2.8m is still more than enough, most modern builds have a ceiling height of 2.4m. You can either support the false ceiling from the sides as suggested by Stamford Properties or as we would prefer, hang it off the existing joists in the ceiling.
Answered1 August 2011
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Anonymous user
Hi,
There are two ways to create a false ceiling, especially if you are looking for a 500mm void between the new ceiling and the existing. the first way is specialised work, were wires are secured from the existing ceiling to suspend a frame on which plasterboard is secured and plastered. The second way, which is far easier, is to secure 50 x 100mm timbers (larger timbers may be required on larger areas) to the walls 500mm below the existing ceiling line and stud out at 400mm centres along the shortest wall to create a timber frame effectively, noggins may be required if the stud length is longer than 2m. This can be then plaster-boarded and skimmed.
I hope the above is of some help.
Julian
Hi Silvia,
We would need to know the dimensions of the area you propose to have the false ceiling fitted (is it the 1m long and 1.8m wide area you refer to in your question) or is it a larger area. If it is the 1.8 x 1.0m area the timber frame option will be more than adequate and cost effective.
OK, firstly, if you use the timber frame option the areas you refer to can be installed and plastered in a day and will have no effect to the flat above. You should be looking for some to charge you £325 - £350 for this work, providing they don't have any obstacles or lighting to extend to the new ceiling areas. If you wish to contact us for further clarification of the suggested method, please contact us through our web www.stamford-properties.co.uk
Answered1 August 2011
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Anonymous user
hi there
your message is a bit confusing but i think i know what your doing. all you need to do is make a small frame out of wood and screw or nail it to the ceiling where there is not a outside wall to get a fixing. when doing the kitchen cieling make sure you fix a 1 piece of wood or more depening on the size of your kitchen to the cieling and put supports from it to the new cieling to give it more support
Hope this helps Robert
