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How deep should wires be chased in to walls?
Is there a minimum depth for wires to be chased in to walls? We've just had a full re-wire and were about to start decorating but in places the cable is coming through the plaster, to the extent I can read the writing on it. Other bits I've noticed are staring to crack and come away where the plaster over the wire is spread so thinly, presumably because it's not deep enough. Is this acceptable? Should he have used some sort of capping for the cable? And how would it be best rectified? He's coming on Thursday to look at it so any information to hit him with would be appreciated.
Thanks.
9 Answers from MyBuilder Electricians
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Bude • Member since 10 Mar 2014 • 8 jobs, 100% positive feedback
There should be at least 5mm above the cable to get a reasonable depth of plaster .
The chase needs to be hoovered and then glued with PVA before plastering.
Plastic capping and plastic oval conduit are optional but a good idea. They are to protect the cable from the plasterers trowel.
Rectified only two options really - re skim the whole wall or take cables out and chase a bit deeper.
Beware though there is a max depth of chase too though this being 16% on a horizontal run and 33% on a vertical run. (A normal house breeze block has a depth of 100mm)
As its a rewire I take it you have RCD protection as this would be required.
Cheers
Answered 14th May 2014
Norfolk • Member since 8 Oct 2013 • 66 jobs, 100% positive feedback
Hi Cheesepie
Your electrician definitely should have used some sort of containment such as capping/conduit. That fact that you can see the cable is evidence that the cables are inadequately mechanically protected. All cables should either be contained in steel conduit or protected by 30mA RCD. If these two cannot be met, then the cables should be installed at least 50mm (2") from the surface.
Answered 14th May 2014
Anthony James Electrical Contractors
Leighton Buzzard • Member since 26 Aug 2013 • 453 jobs, 100% positive feedback
hi he should have used oval tube or capping to protect the cables as its less than 50mm in the wall, the best way to rectify this is to do it correctly by putting oval tube in or capping also must be rcd protected
Answered 14th May 2014
All electrical cables should be set into the walls at a minimum depth of 50mm if they are not mechanically protected. If it isn't possible to chase the walls to that depth then the cables should be set deep enough so that metal capping can cover them and allow for plaster to cover that. Such cables must also be protected by a 30mA RCD.
This is a requirement of BS7671:2008 and can be found on page 74 of the On Site Guide.
Answered 14th May 2014
Edris Building & Electrical Contractor
Leeds • Member since 11 Mar 2013 • 6 jobs, 100% positive feedback
I would assume he's issued an installation certificate and reported it to building control, then your installation is covered with backed up insurance if he don't rectify the fault, it would be done free of charge by the body he's registered with.
Answered 14th May 2014
South Croydon • Member since 5 May 2014 • 10 jobs, 80% positive feedback
hi
cables definatelly shouldn't be visible after plaster. they should be at least 25 mm (1") under the finish surface. If not they should be in plastic trunking (under the plaster) to avoid cracking for example... Anybody who pass BS7671 17th edition of wiring regulation should know that
regards
Answered 14th May 2014
Scarning • Member since 17 Oct 2011 • 696 jobs, 100% positive feedback
BS7671:2008 requires that cables that are not encased in steel conduit and not RCD protected are chased in and buried at a depth of at least 50mm. If cables are installed at depths of less than 50mm then they must be either RCD protected or enclosed in steel tubing.
Sounds like a very poor job, he may possibly not even be a registered electrician. Were you issued with a 6 year guarantee, and both building regulation and electrical test certificates for the job? - If not Alarm bells should be ringing as you've probably been had over!
Answered 14th May 2014
Cranbrook • Member since 27 Mar 2013 • 126 jobs, 100% positive feedback
Cables buried in plaster should be protected from damage by either capping with metal or plastic capping or by placing in conduit and if less than 50mm deep protected by a 30ma RCD
Answered 14th May 2014
Connect Electrical Contractors
March • Member since 21 Apr 2014 • 4 jobs, 100% positive feedback
Hi,
As a rule as long as you have the circuit that the cables are in protected by and RCD then you only have to chase them in as far as convenient for your plasterer. However you can chase them in further and place "capping" over them to offer protection from mechanical devices. ie someone drilling a hole to put up a shelf or painting.
So as long as your sparks has the circuit protected by an RCD then Regulation wise it conforms.
HOWEVER.
Any decent tradesman would know that if they are not chased in at least flush then the plaster integrity around them is drastically weakened.
So i would have him chase them in further and place capping or galvanized conduit in the wall. Then re-plaster.
Main point is... "what a poor job."
Unfortunately it may just be down to standard of work rather than a regulation you can pull him with.
But unless he's a cowboy (which is in question because this should in NO WAY happen) he should see and rectify it.
There is a flip side.
Did the plasterer not do a thick enough skim.. Are they chased in correctly and the plastering job is poor?
Sorry to possibly darken the mood, but its a possibility, although if it was me, the cables would be about 10mm in, capped and always secure.
Regards
John
Answered 14th May 2014
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