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Bathroom extractor fan regulations

Anonymous user 23/02/2024 - 2.50 PM

Hi, We had a 12V bathroom extractor with a transformer above it, situated in Zone1 above the end of the bath 2.3m from the floor. This has stopped working and I purchased a new extractor which is rated IP45, 230V An electrician was called in to fit the new extractor and advised that the extractor is not safe as it is 230V (I found about the IP45 regulation after) and advised he will need to install RCBO circuit for X amount of extra money to make it safe. When I have done my research regarding IP45 rating he replied " yes but cable Cable entered from top not from its back entry point" So I have no knowledge and I am concerned if he fitted the new extractor correctly and safe or I need to call somebody to make sure it is done safe. Many Thanks for your help

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Electrical Safety Services

Rating: 5 out of 5
Dereham
BS7671:2008 requires all electrical items in the bathroom to be RCD protected. A lot of the 230V fans are suitable for use in Zone 1 if they are RCD protected. Its unclear if your saying that the casing has been cut in some way at the top to allow the cable to enter the fan? if so then this will need to be sealed with silicone or similar if there is a gap of 1mm or bigger. IP45 is not a splashproof rating so the casing only needs to prevent access to live parts from human fingers and small diameter objects being pushed through small gaps. briefly explained, as can their effect on the type of extractor fans which can be used. Zone 0 ◾Zone 0 for a bathroom is the area inside the bath. ◾Zone 0 for a shower room is the area inside the shower basin. If there is no shower basin, zone 0 is 10cm high from the finished floor level and extends to 1.2m around the fixed shower head. ◾It is not practical to mount extractor fans in zone 0. Zone 1 ◾Zone 1 for a bathroom is the same width as zone 0 (the width of the bath) extending to 2.25m above the finished floor level. ◾Zone 1 for a shower room is 2.25m from the finished floor level or the height of the fixed shower head from the finished floor level if more than 2.25m, and the width of the shower basin. If the shower has no basin then zone 1 extends to 1.2m around the fixed shower head. ◾Zone 1 does not include zone 0. ◾The space under the bath tub or shower basin is considered to be zone 1. However, if the space under the bath or shower basin is only accessible with a tool, it is considered to be outside the zones. ◾Extractor fans installed within zone 1 must be at least IPX4. ◾Extractor fans installed within zone 1 must be fitted with 12v SELV motors with the SELV transformers and isolators fitted outside of zone 0, 1 & 2. Zone 2 ◾Zone 2 for a bathroom is the same height as zone 1 (2.25m) extended to 0.6m around the bath. ◾Zone 2 for a shower room is the same height as zone 1 extended to 0.6m around the shower basin. If there is no shower basin zone 2 is replaced by zone 1 extended to 1.2m around the fixed shower head. ◾Extractor fans installed within zone 2 must be at least IPX4. ◾Extractor fans installed within zone 2 must be fitted with 12v SELV motors with the SELV transformers and isolators fitted outside of zone 0, 1 & 2. The extent of the zones in a bath or shower room can be limited by floors, ceilings and walls. For more detailed information see BS 7671 diagrams 701.1 & 701.2. Any electrical equipment installed on the surface of floors, ceilings and walls that limit a zone is subject to the requirements of that zone. RCDs are required for all circuits in locations that contain a bath or shower. The requirements for local supplementary bonding have been relaxed if certain conditions are met.
Answered4 May 2014
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Emelec Electrical Services

Rating: 5 out of 5
Wirral
As Kevin says, its outside the zone so no need to worry however installation of an RCD isn't a bad thing.
Answered2 May 2014
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kevin cassidy building contractors

Rating: 5 out of 5
Accrington
2.3mtrs is outside zones but in the bathroom RCD protection is required for new work (bear in mind technically if you replace faulty fittings like for like, upgrade of circuit is not required but I would not recommend not fitting RCD protection)
Answered2 May 2014
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Anthony James Electrical Contractors

Rating: 5 out of 5
Leighton Buzzard
i think you better get another electrician in to check this for you, the electrician is clearly trying to add stuff to get more money for himself also if he has cut part of the fan to get the cable in then water would get in.
Answered3 May 2014
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