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We're thinking about getting the ceiling in our upstairs bedroom either skimmed or replaced. It is uneven in places and some lines (like raised cracks) are visible. What's best?
Anonymous user 03/03/2024 - 2.30 PM
We're not sure how long it has been like this as we just moved in. The property is a smallish Victorian semi. Should we look at replacing the ceiling or get it skimmed?
Are you a tradesperson and able to answer this question?
18 Answers
Anonymous user
Yup,
agree with most of the suggestions on here.
Chances are it is the original lath & plaster construction and strongly recommend that these ceilings are NOT re-plastered/skimmed on to directly and absolutely DO NOT dot & dab the plasterboards onto the ceiling.
If the ceiling looks pretty level,then locate & mark out all the main joists in the ceiling,then using extra long drywall screws (i normally use 60mm screws when over-boarding ceilings) fix new plasterboards over existing ceiling & skim finish.
If the ceiling is badly bowed/not level,then screw some battons to the joists first,then board on new battons.
Either way,try and avoid at all costs not to take down the original ceiling as it will be incredibly messy and ultimately you will not really gain any benefit by doing so.
Hope this has been of some help to you.
Carl.
Answered24 February 2011
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Anonymous user
I would over board and skim, saves a lot of mess taking old ceiling down.
Locate all your existing joists first and mark, use plaster board screws long enough to go through existing ceiling and into joists.
If you have bad bows in the ceiling, I would batten out first, helps pull old ceiling up, and fix new boards to battens,could even thread electric cables etc in, probably easier and better,
Make sure to use plenty of screws,tape up all joints and 2coat skim.
Answered22 February 2011
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Anonymous user
Hi,
This is where you have to be carefull. If it is lathe and plaster, check the joists in your loft and ensure they have not starting sagging and buckling. I'm sure you may find this is the case and then the problem starts. I am currently working on a home with this problem close to Luton Airport and this is the case. I have lowered the ceiling by 100mm. At the edges there is a different of 100mm and the centre of the ceiling is a mere 5mm above the new timber support structure. That is a massive different. The centre has dropped by 95mm. All the support in the loft has sagged and buckled. If this is not the case, then follow the advise of the tradesmen above. By overboarding it, it will still be uneaven in places and this doesn't cure the problem unless you add large quantities of plaster, adding more weight to the structure.
Regards
Ray
Answered24 February 2011
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azs property service
Rating: 5 out of 5
hi . best way is replace or overboarding , then skim over. regards andy
Answered22 February 2011
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northview property mainenance
Rating: 5 out of 5
if its a old property its normal to have a uneven celling due to the joists moveing over the years. give the celling a good thump. if its solid i would even the celling out with hardwall or bonding. cover the cracks with scrim . then two coats of plaster. if the celling is soft ie laths and plaster. you can rip it all down or plasterboard over the top but you WONT even it out just by replacing the celling if it is a old house unless you pack out the joists. roy
Answered22 February 2011
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KEVIN HUNTERPLASTERING SERVICES
Rating: 5 out of 5
Hi bob sounds like laths & lime ceiling locate joists normally 16 inch centres on victorian properties overboard & skim 60/65mm screws saving mess from hacking down if you pull it down dust goes everywhere & i mean everywhere kind regards kev
Answered3 March 2011
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Anonymous user
overboard and skim dont take down unless it is bowed as is very messy
Answered23 February 2011
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Anonymous user
It depends how uneven you are talking ,if it's down to the joists then ripping down the old ceiling wont solve your problem you could reboard over the top but rather than screw it to the joists I would use the dot and dab method that way you are not just following the contour of your joists but forgot to mention before I remove the board surports I then use 50mm sometime longer plaster board screws with small washers so they don't pull through the board,I then fix every 8" along every joist this is most important or the ceiling will come down due to the waight!.It's possible you may get away with putting tape over the cracks bonding then skimming.
Answered25 February 2011
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S P Cousins
Rating: 5 out of 5
Hi my advice due to the uneven ceiling would to either remove the ceiling and replace or over board and skim as just skimming will not solve the uneven parts. Regards Steve
Answered22 February 2011
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MPEP Building Services
Rating: 5 out of 5
I have had exactly this problem today with a replaster job, I evidenced on a quotation down lighters fitted to lathes with burnt out old wiring and exposed conductive parts from the below the ceiling itself. So I would also to be sure, try and remove the lathes one because of build up of combustible materials and dust and two because the old way of wiring in most cases was not clipped direct to joists and therefore could very likely be drilled into when screwing new plaster boards and that's not all plumbing pipes also often are out of there zones in older build properties. Also lathes are a big fire risk when they come into contact with hot halogen bulbs which I see regularly as an electrician/builder. Fortunately not at the burnt house carcass stages yet.
Good luck all
Mark
Answered5 November 2013
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Anonymous user
OVER BOARD AND SKIM THE EASIST WAY,WILL BE A VERY MESSY JOB TO PULL DOWN OLD LATH&PLASTER.
Answered24 February 2011
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Anonymous user
all above are good answers,first off is it a listed building or in a conservation area ? if so check with them on what your aloud to do.Also you may not want a flat ceiling as it can take away the charecter of the building.if this is the case.it may be possible to fix cracks witha special filler and linig paper.or have a builder cut out along cracks carefully.so not to break lathes.and fix withpva and bomding then skim .hope this was helpful.
Answered24 February 2011
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DPF Plastering & Dampproofing
Rating: 5 out of 5
if you want a flat straight ceiling and dont mind loseing a few cm m f ceiling put in with laser ,plasterboard and skim it will be perfict ,all in a day
Answered28 February 2011
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Anonymous user
hi depending on the size of the cracks you can either fill,tape,unibond,and skim over,or you could reboard over the top and skim hope this helps andy.
Answered22 February 2011
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AJ Plastering & Building Services
Rating: 4.9 out of 5
You probably have lathe and plaster ceiling so only solution is to overboard with plasterboard then plaster
Answered22 February 2011
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Anonymous user
Either put new plasterboard over existing and skim or rip down ceiling and put up new plasterboard
Answered23 February 2011
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Anonymous user
Yeah overboarding is possible but if there is sagging in the ceiling i tend to find its easier and a much better job to batten out the perimeter and install a new ceiling provided you have the height to work with. Perfect for pulling your cables etc through
Answered9 May 2017
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Handyman Locksmith
Rating: 5 out of 5
, look all you have to do in this room is get all the tools you need inside, hammer and crow bar, bags etc, seal yourself in by means of taping up the door open the window, wear a good respiratory mask and full overall and take the ceiling down bit by bit cleaning up as you go plaster into bags and lathes in neat piles or straight out of the window in to a skip! De nail all underside of joists. 3-4 hours work, Hoover all dust up.
By the time you’ve messed about with new board over existing uneven lime plaster and sometimes rotten or wood worm joists and trying to get it level which may never happen you could have removed it and treated all the joists from underneath as most times the loft is insulated and boarded out which would add another day messing about with this to inspect the joists!
New 12.5 mm foil backed plasterboard dry wall 40mm screws scrim joints 2 finish coats.
Everyone will sleep much better at night don’t you think.
Answered27 August 2020
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