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Fire doors, are they needed.

Anonymous user 03/03/2024 - 3.39 PM

I live in a 1984 timber frame detached house and note that all my downstairs doors are 45mm as in fire doors. They have 15 glass panels and no intumescent strips in the door or frame so are they really fire doors. Current regs seem to say only fire doors needed on habitual rooms off the staircase on houses over 2 levels are needed. I want to replace them with 35mm doors by removing the stops and re positioning them. Anyone see a problem with that. Many thanks.

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4 Answers

Archer Furniture

Rating: 5 out of 5
Rugby
Hi, You right in that no intumescent, is not really a fire door. Regardless of the blank make up or glass etc. Without the intumescent, there can be no fire seal to the frame in the event of a fire. With regards to Building Regulations, its worth checking with them, but as you say and as I understand it domestic properties with 3 storeys or more are required to have fire doors to communal areas or rooms leading to a stair well. The moving of the stops to make a 35mm door work is fine, you just will need to adjust all the ironmongery to make the door work. Are you replacing doors for a reason other than decoration. You may find it simpler to keep to a 44mm door non fire door, less destruction and fiddling with keep, lock alignment. Hope that helps
Answered20 August 2021
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Anonymous user

Fire are needed in a house of multiple occupancy and rented accommodations. That being said its always going to be safer to have fire doors . but you will need to instal fire regulated door linings to with intumescent strips.
Answered26 August 2021
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Robert Appleby

Rating: 4.4 out of 5
Hastings
Just note that fire doors require a label stamp etc stating their fire resistance plus possible need for door closers .Advise customers on fire zones and escape plans via the fire brigade advisor.
Answered1 September 2021
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GKS Services

Rating: 5 out of 5
Bristol
Hi, I would suggest that if the door has 15 panes of glass, that they are actually not fire doors, but external doors being used internally. External doors are usually 44mm thick. With 15 panes of glass, the wood between the glass would not be large enough to pass fire regs. The wood would burn and the glass would fall out. I believe on a fire door the wood between glass has to be something like 115mm. But don't quote me on that as I am going from memory.
Answered2 September 2021
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