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should I instruct completion of installation plus pay for ill fitting windows?
Anonymous user 23 February 2024 - 3.09 PM
I ordered double glazed sash and case upvc upvcwindows to replace my sash and case 1940s pitch pine windows. The joiner measured up, quoting for windows 1860 mm high, which I accepted.
2 months later the windows were partially installed and seemed to be too small. The fitters packed them below and above, plus down the sides, with soft wood planks, bits of wood and beads of expandable foam. The sills don't sit on the stone sills of the house, they sit on a softwood prank which sits on the sill.
If the foam deteriorates, the windows will move.
There's no damp proof membrane between the wood and the outer sills and there are gaps, draught everywhere round about the windows. The windows themselves slide open really nicely and seem good.
My question is, the windows supplied are 1800 high, not 1860 as measured. Is that a standard off~ the~ shelf size?
Is it acceptable to have foam instead of fit and fixings? There are 3 screws in the bottom of one of the windows, 2 also in either bottom corner, but that's it. In 5 windows I can't see any other fixings, just foam.The bay window is formed by 3 separate windows with square corners/edges. The sides are a good 2cm or so apart from each other so I can't see how a neat weatherproof finished bay is going to be achieved.
Do you think these windows are going to be wind and waterproof over time?
We're 1000ft up in a very windy area. Thanks very much for any advice or information that you can give.
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Windows are made according to the measurements taking, sounds like your joiner has make a mistake,
While you can use packers to level you windows you really only want about a 5mm gap all round this will depend on how straight and level your openings are.
As for being weather tight you have already said they are draughty so in short no. Its an expensive mistake on his part but in reality its up to him to correct any mistakes. It was common practice a few years back to just foam windows into place but does not make them as secure as they could be fixed to the brickwork .
Good luck Alex
Good luck alex
Answered6 May 2017
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Anonymous user
I agree with ADR, I went to measure up a job the other day, in short the customers house had been broken into, first they attempted the uPVC door to no luck, then the kitchen window, which was just foamed in, no fixings, window was straight out with a crowbar. Just double check for fixings! I hope he gets back to sort it out for you :) good luck
when it comes to replacing a casement window on a standard face brick house then allowing between 5mm and 10mm for levelling is standard practice
However replacing a sash window or vertical sliding window you are governed by the outside brickwork,render or corbles
A original sash windows would be wider inside due to having sash weights either side
When these are replaced timber should be used to make up for the short fall in overall width and to assist fixings this then should be packed with insolation then trimmed with liners and archive