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Could anyone give me some feedback on pointing in guns. I am fed up with pointing in patios .
Are these guns any good, if so which make would you recomend or is it just another tool to waste away in my tool box.And also these dry brush in polymer type things same question really .I would be very grateful from anyone that has used either Thanks Pete.Thanks everyone I am still unsure maybe i'll bite the bullet and buy a gun, the resin sounds a bit pricey.The only problem wioth pointing as you go which I think is the best method is if the customer wanfs a different colour.
- Yfigjam 25th Mar, 2011 Landscape Gardening
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The Guns which are like oversized silicone guns are great providing you get the consistency of your mortar mix to be perfect.
I would advise using more mortar plasticiser than in a usual mix. with a pointing gun you will probably exceed your current pointing time by 500%. they fill gaps so much easier than with a pointing bar.
Dont be bothered about over filling and it coming out of the joint, just wait till its drying and bar the mortar in as usual then scrape the excess away to reduce staining chances.
The pointing guns which use a compressor arent much good if you ask me, their rep came out to meet me after I said I could do it faster with a silicone style gun and I did.
Slightly bare information but I Hope it helps, in short there definatly better than the traditional bar.
- Foxcroft Roofing and Building 25th Mar, 2011
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You have had some good answers, I have used the skeleton gun type, we found that you need good fine sand, with extra feb than usual, always have a screwdriver in your pocket to unblock the nozzle, as they do get blocked quite often.
When refilling always clean out the last bit of mortar as it does dry out stiff.
For patios the better gun is the Point Master, it has a larger 10mm slotted end, same size as perp joints in brick work, and doesnt block up.
These guns are heavy when filled right up.
Being a traddional builder I much prefer to point by hand, ie, bucket hand or small tool.
- B J D BUILDING/ROOFING 26th Mar, 2011
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They are aimed at the DIY market and are a waste of time.I point up as I go and then you dont have to go back over it when the slabs have been laid.After 30 years doing it this is more cost and time effective.
- dougcusdenlandscapes 25th Mar, 2011
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I have found it depens on who supplys your sand and the quality of sand they stock, otherwise they just jam-up, i find it quicker and more efficient to do it with a jointing iron or pointing trowel.
- D&A Builders 26th Mar, 2011
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Hey, this is the stuff to use its awesome i have used it loads best on market,
vdw 850 is a particularly high performance and extremely durable, self compacting, epoxy bound paving jointing mortar for pedestrian, light and medium vehicular traffic loads, including larger vehicles and mechanical road sweepers, pressure water jetting etc, etc.
Suitable for extremely fast self compacting aplication, with no delays or waiting (or additional costs!), even in continuously wet weather and at colder temperatures. This is because as the material can be applied in the rain - and in cold (non-freezing) conditions it can still be applied and will continue to cure when temperatures increase above 8-10 degrees C.
vdw 850 is non staining, prevents weed growth, prevents boring insects and has no shrinkage cracking. It is also fully resistant to de-icing salts and freeze-thaw conditions
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- Mulberry Cottage Gardens 30th Mar, 2011
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Hi. I always use a jointing compound called Geofix, its available in buff and grey. Open it up, sweep it around the paving and point it up with a jointing iron, simple as that. It saves a ridiculous amount of time and it doesnt stain the paving like the more traditional methods. Drawbacks are that it can go off very quickly in warm weather making it hard to sweep around and also that it costs around £30 a tub covering about 12 square metres. Its definitely worth it though, saves you hours, perhaps days in labour!!
- R. Hughes Construction Ltd 25th Mar, 2011
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I have used pointing guns for brickwork and patios they are ok but still time consuming refilling. For patios you could try ready mixed brush in wickes do some it is expensive but is so easy and has resin built in and very esay to work with will take you so little time it is the bees knees
- SL solutions 25th Mar, 2011
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hi there are 2 types of gun for sale in screwfix ,the dearer one is better quality ,you do have to make the mortar quiet runny to get it to flow out of the nozzle ,,but you must make sure it is cleaned really well after use,once you get the hang of it it makes pointing much cleaner and quicker hope this helps ,brushing in a dry mix is also quick but it stains the slabs and tends to crack and leave voids in joints
- Finebuild Builders 26th Mar, 2011
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geo- fix by everbuild tidy as any thing and setts like iron try and you wont look back .
- md landscapes 8th Apr, 2011
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I've used both guns and geo-fix. The guns are quite time consuming as you have to keep filling them up and they tend to get blocked quite easily. The geo-fix works well but after a year or so there will be moss growing from the joints. I have pointed a lot of patios and tried different methods but still go back to trowel and jointing iron.
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